I still get a panic attack when somebody says, Whats your show about?
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But this is pure mythology.
These are edited excerpts from our conversation.
You just hit your 500th episode, but you have threatened to quit a million times before.
If youre enjoying the podcast, you suck, because we think its bad.
That has had an adverse effect.
So many people have started to say, I wish they still liked doing the show.
They believe we want to quit and hate doing the show and feel some obligation to do it.
But, of course, I love it!
Why else would we do it?
S.C.:They were like, We loved this show, but its time.
They need to move on.
Did you think about holding that episode for Try Month?S.C.
Then he mentioned that he had started listening to the show, which was terrifying.
I tried to underplay it, because I would have been embarrassed if he didnt like it.
But he mentioned listening to it again later and specific episodes that he enjoyed.
And he was totally accommodating.
This milestone happened just as you are moving on to a new podcast internet.
What changed?H.D.
With Stiller, there was a lot of effort trying to get him on the show.
For us and the level that goes into a normal episode, thats a milestone episode.
Bang!thats episode 46.
Their business model is predicated on listener growth, which is not really our thing.
So it made sense for us to get on Patreon.
We needed to reward our most engaged listeners and allow them to reward us.
Then when it came to Headgum, they were really receptive to us continuing to have a Patreon.
We just love incorporating a workplace into our episodes.
We have to be a couple of weeks ahead, always looking forward.
That adds a lot of stress to the show internally.
Now that were back in studio, were ahead of that curve.
:What Kevin wants people to understand is that the No.
1 thing that contributes to the shows quality and creative capacity is booking in advance.
You recorded a couple of episodes at Forever Dog too.
Was that in consideration as a connection to join?S.C.
I had a job in the valley.
Hayes was working near there, too, and it was really close to the Forever Dog studios.
And we dont care about Kevin.
The Patreon worldhas been dangerousfor podcasts lately.
How have you found working with Patreon?S.C.
:Ive had a generally positive experience.
I genuinely think our listeners respond to that negatively.
Its so easy to access, and of course, theyre funny and their shows are fun.
I am always baffled by this.
Its not like Im just on your level and others arent.
This is not my special show.
It is just constantly hilarious.
:Well,your outletcalled us deeply alienating, andwe put it on a T-shirt.
Its not my experience that its accessible.
Theres something that doesnt click.
The show has changed.
Kurt Vile I dont think was prepared for what it was and I dont think enjoyed what it was.
Now, I really like him and his music hes a sweet guy.
To know that afterward, he wished he hadnt done it?
That didnt make me feel good.
Is it always like that?
:Even people who have done this show multiple times.
I do feel that the show puts a lot of stock in embarrassment.
You two being made out to be fools is of great delight to the audience.S.C.
Maybe hell do the show again or tell other people, These guys are really funny!
That is still our goal.
Youre both WGA members.
How have the WGA strike and the impending SAG strike affected the show?S.C.
So I know that they are in L.A. and not working.
Maybe theyd want to do something.
Will you reach out to them?
S.C.:As were talking about guests and WGA, should I exclusively premiere this other podcast?
K.B.:Yeah!
S.C.:Im starting to record a couple episodes of this other show.
Hayes and I talk aboutAdaptationfor the first episode.
Im calling itSubtitles On, and the idea is that youre reading the movie.
It was written and, therefore, meant to be read.
People are available for that.
That became Hayes writing a one-paragraph intro that we recorded every episode for four episodes.
People got mad about hearing it again and again.
That was as much prep as weve done.
:My day job is not in comedy or entertainment anymore.
It took us many years to build and actually be able to make some money off it.
In that sense, we feel very lucky to have started doing this when we did.
Do you see another 500 episodes in your future?S.C.
So I cant think of a reason for me to stop doing it.
Unless we didnt make money off it anymore, because its really just about money for me.
:The shabby preparation of it is what makes it sustainable for us.
I feel like I could do it forever.
Continuing to do this allows me to do other things as well.
