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But Rutina was the first person who showed her vulnerable side.

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She naturally sees something in Ellie to nurture.

Being a mother-to-be, she does it instinctually.

You would never see a wide grin on her face.

Shes very cool and collected.

Also, shes a mother-to-be and a nurturer.

What do you think Maria values most?She will do anything for her community.

She would do anything to keep that little settlement sacred.

She still has a heart and sees the goodness in people.

Even though shes the leader of this place, shes like,Im not even going to ask.

Its Joel.Its really subtle.

She can put the strict rules of this settlement aside to reunite them.

It comes from love.

But … Tommy did, though!

As people, we sometimes do funny things when weve taken a liking to someone.

We tend to forgive a little easier.

Earlier, when Ellie figured out Joel killed people, it didnt make her run away from him.

Shed already made this connection.It gets to a point where its too late because you already love that person.

I wanted to be able to put my own spin on it.

If Im playing Josephine Baker, lets say, then there are things you have to study, mannerisms.

But because it was a game, I wanted to capture the essence of her.

I didnt want worrying about the game to affect my performance.

It makes her a great leader.

The law doesnt really apply now, but shes very fair and practical.

A lot of people, at the end of the day, just want things to be fair.

She knows how to do that.

What was it like shooting in that reworked Jackson?I remember being in awe.

It was fricking cold.

It was so cold, oh my God.

Im from Vegas, so I was like, Wheres the heat?

But I was like a kid in a candy store.

This was what I saw in my mind on the page, andhere it is.

My favorite part of the settlement is the big wooden gate we all ride through.

Also seeing it, I was like, Okay, this is a little too real.

I could actually see humans building this gate.

When we need to, were capable of so much.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.