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The youngest couple in the D.C. cast had a rocky relationship from the start.
But did the relationship really need to play out the way it did?
Youveacknowledgedthat, watching the show back, you were cruel and demeaning to Nick.
Why do you think you didnt recognize that at the time?
Youre seeing me say it the 20th time pretty harshly.
When you watch it, yes, my delivery was horrible.
Some of the things I said I never should have said.
I should have been a lot kinder.
But I was very, very frustrated, and youre seeing that frustrated self.
But I have an absolutely wonderful relationship with my family.
My girlfriends that you saw are some of my closest friends.
Yes, I can be bitchy.
I can be blunt.
Its inherently who I am; Ive always been like that.
I know I can be a lot kinder to everybody.
Ive known this my entire life.
How would you definematurity?
In the grand scheme of things, is that maturity?
But maturity is more than that.
Im a very emotional person; you saw those emotions come out in the way I spoke.
And I think maturity can also come with your cadence and how you speak to people.
Emotional maturity is something I lacked for sure.
It was a little dramatic.
I definitely dont think I can turn you from a boy into a man in that amount of time.
Whether I was or not, thats how I felt in the moment.
At theGatsbyparty, you were wary of Katie when she was talking to Nick.
We were called the trio.
And were still very close to this day; our friendship is still good.
Thats why that situation was so shocking for me.
Best friend in the whole world yes, its a crazy thing to say.
But when youre falling in love with someone that fast, youre also finding friendships that fast.
When we got back from the experiment, me and Katie talked on the phone every single day.
We text every day, so she knows every single detail about the breakup and our relationship.
Shes one of my closest friends.
You have to remember Katies 36.
Theres a ten-year difference there.
you’re free to see the emotional maturity she has that I lack.
Shes saying the same thing Im saying but in a lot better way.
Its a lesson ofOkay, this is probably how I should speak to future partners.
What was your intent behind making that list of concerns about Nick on vacation?
I write things down all the time.
Thats a lot more private; its got a passcode.
I didnt have my phone or my Notes app during the experience.
What did I have?
I had a notepad in the hotel room.
It wasnt just because of the duck situation that I wrote all those things.
I put it on my side of the bed and went away.
It wasnt on purpose.
Theres a lot of good qualities he has.
But I didnt get to the pros yet.
You dated Nick and Leo in the pods, but things obviously ended poorly with Leo.
And, of course, I was bummed.
I was dying to see what Leo looked like.
Nick recently said in aninterviewthat you might have been projecting your own insecurities onto him.
But when you watch it back, theres definitely insecurities.
We all have insecurities.
Nick recognized that jealousy might be one of mine.
Now that the shows over, are you working again?Yes, I am employed now.
I wasnt used to that.
I think it gave me a different perspective on being more empathetic for people.
I have savings, so I was okay financially, but mentally it was hard.
Ultimately, was it worth it to quit your job for this?Absolutely.
And what better way to experience life than that?
Sometimes you just have to take risks.
I did, and I learned so much about myself.
Im so, so happy that I did it.
