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I have a very light day, Giamatti says.

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I do a podcast.

No, you dont, Maron jumps in.

Yes, I do, Giamatti says, as the two go back and forth (Do you?

Do you reallynotbelieve me?)

Everyone has something, Giamatti points out with a signature wryness.

They do ad reads about microdosing.

Asma is the skeptic; Giamatti is the sometimes believer.

The episodes are casual and low-stakes.

Giamatti and Hanks talk about which European diets might extend their lives.

Asma is a welcome civilian presence, never too preening or too highbrow.

Giamatti presents himself as an eager and active listener, dutifully uh-huh-ing.

He knows everyone, though even he seems a little stunned at his ability to book Tom Hanks.

(Will Smith started one last fall after, uh,well, you know.)

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