The podcasts psychoanalyst hosts are listening.
So is everyone else, it seems.
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Long runs near his home, in the woods of North Carolinas Outer Banks, werent helping.
Nor was spending eight hours glued to his office chair every day.
Writer friends were generous with their support at first but eventually became nervous about catching the bug themselves.
An ongoing battle with depression and anxiety only made matters worse.
In desperation, Quick even hired a creativity coach.
It didnt go well.
Quick listened on his next run and couldnt stop listening for the next two months.
I suddenly had a framework that felt really helpful and profound.
Soon, the writing came back.
I can still remember exactly where Deb was sitting in the room, Marchiano recalls.
I liked her right away and felt certain that we were going to become good friends.
Though I was frustrated over the subsequent months because she didnt seem to have the same intuition.
After getting certified, the three went their separate ways.
It was such a loss because we werent in this intense container anymore, Marchiano remembers.
Wed meet for dinner sometimes and have calls, but I was always lonely for that feeling.
We just wanted to be a welcome mat to these ideas.
Or in Stewarts words, Your safe guides into the underworld.
Their timing proved fortuitous.
It caught fire almost right away, remembers Marchiano.
Ill never forget: We started that April, and by June, we had 10,000 downloads.
Now, we have around 10 million.
Today, the show averages around 30,000 listeners per episode.
It was like, Oh my God, youre the people who doTJL!
When I put this to the hosts, Marchiano laughs.
Jungian rock star is kind of a contradiction in terms.
Were a tweedy, introverted, low-profile bunch, so thats kind of a funny metaphor.
But really, were just three people having a conversation every week about something that we feel matters.
Jungian analysis is different from Freudian psychoanalysis, which uses the couch and the analyst sitting behind a person.
Jung always talked about more face-to-face meetings and being actively engaged with the person.
I think what theyve been providing is a three-point dialectic.
First, because Jungs theories were explained in a way that immediately resonated with their own struggles.
It was a beautiful invitation to look in the mirror.
Their tone is this constant reminder that theres a way forward.
It was just so soothing.
Flavius Ardelean-Bachmann also changed his life after listening.
I started listening and never stopped, he says.
Through sleepless winter nights, they became my friends and helped me find my way out.
Hes now happy in a new career as a novelist but plans to later train as a psychoanalyst.
Lee, Marchiano, and Stewart are now in high demand as psychanalysts themselves.
Interest in their respective practices has exploded, and their waiting lists have become irresponsibly long, Lee says.
All in all, theyre just hoping to keep the Jung train rolling.
I famously did not like being in public very much, he remembers.
And Ive realized that its not that those people were mean three years ago.
Its that I was different.
Thats new, humbling, and exciting.
And I dont think I would have ever gotten there if it hadnt been for the show.
