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But the distain is not mutual.
Koch got to talk to Erik again, in person, following the familys statement.
They hugged it out and he told them that he understands their critiques.
I just said, I understand, I get it, and I stand with you.
I always knew I wanted to meet them, he said.
So then when it happened, it felt weirdly normal.
Normal is definitely the word wed use here.