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Thats where Harris Dickinsons Bill Farrah comes in.
Art was the only subject in school I really excelled in.
Also, I got to have a mullet.
Its always a nice thing to get to have for a bit.
I love that he was an anarchist at heart.
I try and do that, when Im not too scared of what backlash I might get.
He wants to do the right thing and he wants to connect with Darby in the right way.
We tend to become more risk-averse.
We seek structure more and we seek safety more.
I wanted to bring that into him and find a version of him that was slightly more focused.
So how did you convey that?Costume did it a little bit.
The costume that he was in at the retreat was slightly more refined, a little bit more mature.
His focus has become specific.
Speaking of costuming, Bill is covered in tattoos.
Is it a squiggle?
The neck one went so high up that people were always like, Oh, hes donethat, okay!
My least favorite was the back one because it took so long,so long.
I was in makeup for like two hours every morning and then removing them at night.
Bill is well-known for his guerrilla art as FANGS.
I think hes aware that hes caused certain disruptions in the art world.
But I dont think its part of his DNA that hes become well known.
He probably rejects that idea.
I thought about that a lot: How much is he leaning into this public image?
Darby is perhaps the only person who genuinely knew at least one version of him.
How did you two work together?Emma and I became very close.
Weve got similar sensibilities with our work and our acting.
I was there to support Emma.
I was just trying to be there and do the work and verify I was ready.
We had a lot of fun.
Utah was really silly.
We couldnt help it.
When youre tired, things become more funny.
When theyre not supposed to be funny, they become funnier.
Bill is really putting himself out there by singing first, and then Darby picks it up.
It tells us so much about their relationship right from the beginning.
Awful, awful, awful singing.
I wish they would have just called a singer up and said, Will you dub this actor?
That was one of the last things we did.
There was such a closeness to us.
It was sad but happy.
It was about trying to create a feeling of freedom and closeness.
Do you personally have a go-to sing-along song in the car?Sias Chandelier or Elastic Heart.
you could shout it, you could belt it, its very uplifting, I find.
In that same episode, Bill dies, which is incredibly traumatic for Darby and for us.
Its bloody, its prolonged.
Theres no way of being like, Imma just stay in it.
You find yourself in these weird sort of Google searches about the death rattle.
[Laughs] How do you expect me to do that, come in and out like that?
Its really difficult because theres a lot of things people need from that moment.
Its not always about just what the actors are doing.
Theres a lot of technical stuff going on.
How did you and Emma work together on that scene?I love what youve picked up on.
Its a challenging one as well, because Emma and I were so silly with each other.
Its inevitable, isnt it?
Certain intelligent filmmakers are gonna inevitably get into that.
The interesting thing is that we are all part of it, particularly in Hollywood.
Its interesting to get into that because its so complicated.
I appreciated the overlaps there.Theyre different.
I feel like this one isnt as satirical.
It feels more optimistic in some ways, it feels more dramatic in others.
This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.
